this is tranny granny i am not so available as others i spend much of my time on the hoop in efforts to replant native bioms and rewilding people on the hoop.i have found friends that work dilegently to connect me to the larger community and i want to thank them .i am hopeful in finding like minded people who can see the difference between those who would go to the way now rather than waiting for a failure of civilization. i wonder if you can see that you might see that to go now requires a different sort of person than that one who is waiting for afall to bust a move. ifyoufall upon this stone you will be broken if this stone falls upon you ,you will be ground to powder.i am hoping to find those who see themselves as that returning rainbow warrior. i would like to hear from that one and i want to build community with those ones now because we can and should not latter because we have to .check it out at pullingforwildflowers.org lets support each other in this come out of her (babylon) my people Shemaw Shicheen
Hey tranny granny! Iâve heard of you and the hoop from Spiral at queeruption 10. I am leaving the city in a few days to get busy on the land my brother and I will be living on, but I would love to come out your way when I get a chance. The hoop sounds amazing. Your post speaks to me, I am rewilding because I must do it for my heart and sanity. I often feel out of place for not being very âcrashâ oriented. I am glad your voice is here.
i feel glad to have you here too, tranny granny!
trollsplinter- do you really feel out of place here because you donât orient yourself around the crash?
i donât plan my life around the âcrashâ either, and this really informs my rewilding, and how i choose to rewild.
I admit to being concerned with the crash⌠upon reflection, maybe overly concerned⌠it really just sucks you into a civilized headspace, that is to say, trapped.
I admit to being concerned with the crash... upon reflection, maybe overly concerned... it really just sucks you into a civilized headspace, that is to say, trapped.
I find that contemplating collapse is best used as a motivator, though not a primary reason to rewild. I basically tell myself, âYou know, all this crap is going to come crumbling down pretty soon. Why not get off your ass and do the things youâve been wanting to do anyway?â
Yeah, except I go to extremes and instead of becoming a motivator, it becomes a little dark abyss of shame and worry. (Shame because Iâm not doing âenough.â⌠tsk tsk, thatâs the old staircase talking.)
Anyway, as you were! Back to the topic at hand.
Pullingforwildflowers is a cool story.
I have been thinking that it would be interesting to try a nomadic lifestyle,
moving in a loop through the seasons.
It seems this would require a lot of knowledge of your particular boiregion.
It would I think, be good to know something about the migration patterns of the past natives in your area.
Of course many habitats have been altered drastically, and one would have to adjust
their migration path to account for that.
And then with so many roads, a bicycle would be handy.
There many dynamics that this modern world factors in.
Anyway, my point is that it could be done with a bit of planning and expiermentation.
Opinions anyone?
The Native people whose territory I live in were hunter/gatherers. They had a fairly large territory (but no where near as large as the hoop that Coyote Camp travels in).
From the records and memories that we have, it seems that their cycles were longer than one year. For example, they did not always come back to the same place to winter. It might be two or three years before they would return to a winter camp again.
The one exception to that might be the salmon fishing camp at Kettle Falls, Wa. which people might return to each year. But maybe some years another smaller camp might work out better.
Even in a forested area resources like firewood and game might need more than a year to replenish after a band wintered in a spot.
Likewise with root digging areas.
I dig roots each year but I try not to dig the same spot for two or three years. A band digging for subsistance would have even more of an effect than little ole me.
[quote=âofthewood, post:8, topic:886â]Pullingforwildflowers is a cool story.
I have been thinking that it would be interesting to try a nomadic lifestyle,
moving in a loop through the seasons.
It seems this would require a lot of knowledge of your particular boiregion.
It would I think, be good to know something about the migration patterns of the past natives in your area.
Of course many habitats have been altered drastically, and one would have to adjust
their migration path to account for that.
And then with so many roads, a bicycle would be handy.
There many dynamics that this modern world factors in.
Anyway, my point is that it could be done with a bit of planning and expiermentation.
Opinions anyone? [/quote]
Finisia (Tr Grny) asked me to respond, as she lives off the grid without web access (unless she goes to the Public Library). You and others who are feeling called to Disengage from modern civilization and are serious about getting âBack to the Hoopâ and live in Unison and Harmony with mother earth, you are invited to Join Finisia and Coyote Camp in Arco for Root Camp and Festival June 14 - 28, 2008 (see invitation below.) There you can join other like minded individuals, and learn more about actually Living on the Hoop, get the feel for it⌠and decide if you are ready, willing and able to join in the Hoop Clan and live according to the Old Ways of the hunter/gatherers.
In her younger years Finisia was mentored in âThe Old Waysâ by Elders of the Shoshone Tribe in Idaho, and is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced personâs on the Native American Hunter / Gatherer lifestyle of the Great Basin Region, that you will ever meet. For 10+ years Fin has lived in a horse-drawn covered wagon, following the Seasons of the Hoop, planting back the native plants in the Idaho / Nevada deserts, being sustained (fed) by these same plants, teaching and sharing with others who choose to journey with her for awhile. All she requires is the ability to live in truth and harmony, the Desire to learn and live according to the Old Ways, To be strong, hand working, independent, self sufficient, and most importantly the ability to Pull Your Own Weight and then some more for the Clan!!
Jon the Bicylist www.rewild.info/conversations/index.php?action=profile;u=413 photo -> www.pullingforwildflowers.org/images/shurz11.jpg
Jon first joined in at Pinon Camp last fall at Austin NV for a couple weeks, then he rode his bicyle off into the Horizon. In March 2008 he returned on his bicycle and Joined Finisiaâs wagon train, setting up his own tent next to the wagons, sometimes riding alongside Finisia up on the wagon, sometimes riding his bike alongside or the road ahead or off into the desert horizon and returning hours later with tonights Supper that he had gathered from the native plants. You might ask him what it is really like to Disengage from civilization and ENGAGE with Life on the Hoop? He is @ 23 years old and Doing It - Living his dreams, Living on the Hoop.
Here is a link to a Wiki Journal Entry Jon wrote about one of his experiences on the Hoop
http://sacredhoop.wikispaces.com/Jon%20the%20Bicyclist%20-%20On%20The%20Hoop
You can remain TRAPPED where you are, bitching, moaning, philosophizing about the Collapse and daydreaming about a better day, a happier, better way⌠or you can Disengage, walk through the door and begin living your Rewilding DreamsâŚ
It is better to have LESS Thunder in the mouth and MORE Lightning in the Hand - Apache Proverb
⌠and Here is Your Invitation:
ROOT CAMP AND FESTIVAL - 2008
ARCO, IDAHO JUNE 14-28
You are welcome at other times, if you cannot attend in June
CALLING ALL Spirit Warrior Braves,
Womyn, and Two-Spirited People
Find VISION and HOPE for the Future
Learn the Ă¢ââÂŹĂĹWalks in Beauty WayĂ¢ââââ¢
Work and Play in Sacred Space
Dig and Plant Back the Hoop
Deepen your relationship with Mother Earth & Father Sky
There is NO CHARGE; however, you will be expected
to come in the SPIRIT of Potlatch, bringing
and sharing your ABUNDANCE
For more information, registration, directions, etc.
Contact:
Finisia - (208) 406-7818
White Eagle
Timothy Turner
(206) 778-8605
whiteeaglesmail (at) yahoo (dot) com
Spider
David Schuler
(707) 869-1612
aranahombre88 (at) yahoo (dot) com
Visit us at - www.pullingforwildflowers.org
Awesome maybe Iâll get a chance to venture out there that week since I donât have school
[quote=âofthewood, post:8, topic:886â]Pullingforwildflowers is a cool story.
I have been thinking that it would be interesting to try a nomadic lifestyle,
moving in a loop through the seasons.
It seems this would require a lot of knowledge of your particular boiregion.
It would I think, be good to know something about the migration patterns of the past natives in your area.
Of course many habitats have been altered drastically, and one would have to adjust
their migration path to account for that.
And then with so many roads, a bicycle would be handy.
There many dynamics that this modern world factors in.
Anyway, my point is that it could be done with a bit of planning and expiermentation.
Opinions anyone? [/quote]
Iâve been learning the great basin hoop with tranny granny since early spring. My mule is a mtn bike and in-line trailer and it does pretty well especially with finâs horses n buggy as a base camp with water and heavier supplies. A spectacle like the wagon is really important for taking care of those modern factors since gift economics is the way to swim and based on my past bike tours, the public tends to frown on bike culture. Maybe itâs the elitism of it. Others have added sled dogs to the bike and that gets people to pull over and make friends. Pulling a lot of weight up a mountain takes some conditioning, but that leaves you in good enough condition to backpack around pretty easily once you park and camp. Iâve been able to hitchike with the rig but thatâs getting tougher with the times. stuff breaks (the bearing shield on my trailer wheel crumbled after 8000 miles - make a kick stand 
) and itâll lure you back into the city, so my advise with any mule is to go for the long haul - moneyâs goin out of style and thereâs titanium out there! gears and rubber are not a longterm solution of course - just enough to get us out there deconditioning, biulding relationships and planting back a life. Itâs absolutely necessary I think to get plenty of miles between the cities and the gardens and to be able to haul more seeds from more places than was aboriginally possible, so while weâve got these dinosaurs around they oughta be put to good use for once. If I found sacks of money Iâd probably be on a motorcycle or a quad maybe. maybe. eh.
j8a4h@hotmail.com
[quote=âjon the bicyclist, post:12, topic:886â][quote author=ofthewood link=topic=938.msg10311#msg10311 date=1211372227]
Pullingforwildflowers is a cool story.
I have been thinking that it would be interesting to try a nomadic lifestyle,
moving in a loop through the seasonsâŚ
⌠And then with so many roads, a bicycle would be handy.
[/quote]
Iâve been learning the great basin hoop with tranny granny since early spring. My mule is a mtn bike and in-line trailer and it does pretty well especially with finâs horses n buggy as a base camp with water and heavier suppliesâŚ
j8a4h@hotmail.com[/quote]
Jon⌠I was pleased to read your journal entry in the Wiki garden, and now your first post in the RewildINFO Forum - and enjoyed reading your interesting perspectives about your Hoop Experience.
I really admire what you are doing, because when I was your age I think I would have done the same thing. In 1977 when I was in my 20âs I was creating and living my dreams by making my own 20â Tipi by hand, and living in it with my 2 dogs, on an isolated, arid 12 acres, 25 miles south of Durango CO. During the days I would plant âgardensâ in the canyon, work on building an adobe âSweat Lodgeâ and cold dip pool, and at night I would drown out the loneliness by getting drunk and stoned around the firepit. If I had met Finisia or someone like her I would have packed up my Tipi and hopped on that covered wagon train and headed off into the Desert⌠on a real adventure. I still dream about doing it, but I am not as adventuresome, footloose and fancy free now at 57 as I once was at 23.
I look forward to your sharing more of your perspectives on your Hoop Experience. I think that your sharing of âYour Hoop Storyâ will be an inspiring motivator for those âdyingâ to make the move âBack to the Gardenâ, but feeling paralyzed and afraid to take the first step out of the door.
Happy Trails to you,
Orion >>
Hi Fen⌠One of the organizers, White Eagle (206) 778-8605 lives in Seattle and can tell you more about Root Festival and he can email you the âWhat to bring, what to expect, and How to get thereâ package.
Hope you can make it.
Happy Trails,
Orion >>
tranny here i had this chance to see the posts and i appreciate the responses. we are six at camp at this time and we are in the huddles hole taking out the invasive tannsy ragwart. we are preparing for root fest . we hope to gather a whole ton to plant camas and bisquit roots onions and such to the maries river burn in neveda north of elko. this will be daughnting work and illegale too scince alot of the plantings will be on public land and across state lines. i hope to find allies in this lifegiving work and i know you can find your rewilding in it. again thanks and forgive my commputer illiteracy and my clumsy use of the writen word . i do have hope in this forum and the media in general . thanks to my friends who have incouraged me out of the sage ang.d even online in this outreach. thankyou thosehearts out there who long in this direction with me . i have been reading many posts and profiles anb web sites and i would love to meet all of you here in this forum. my prayer is to creator for the things of creator and that is to spend time around the fire getting to know you all. shemaw shicheen 
Late in responding, sorry Willem. Yeah, I do feel out of place, but not alienated or anything, just different. I do realize there are people on here other than myself that are not crash oriented either. The main difference I feel is due to not being invested in human survival if there is a crash. Just know that my feeling out of place is not a negative experience for me, I still enjoy this site greatly.
tranny granny here . i want to thank clyde hall at fort hall for his support in our efforts to put on a winter camp at arco idaho. we had a great dance at wolf creek oregon where clyde handed out seven root diging sticks. my friends and mentors on the warm springs res. in oregon call these sticks cuppen. i would again ask any who feel the need to give life to the native food plants and to a rewilding culture and the seven generations to come out and help us harvest and plant these seeds. i can assure tou that you will learn much about how to sustain the wild that gives to everthing.i know that to be jaded and pesemistic passes for wisdom these days. i ask you to chance being childlike again and learn wisdom from the bisquit root and the sage . time is short to come to this thing now before all that survive are forced to. our inheretance is the hard work of restoration and renewal of the mother. why would any meek want to inherit the shit and bones that is the legacy we leave our children? civilization is that rabid dog that needs shot and dragged off before it kills every living thing . i am asking you to tighten up and become what gives life and make it abundant. civilization is a luxury that nothing of nature can support. if you do not stand to this challeng you need to ask yourself, who is your mother . if it is babylons titty you nurse then there is your mother. in the view from the hoop we dont have to greenwash our way or mitigate this culture of death. thank you all who seek a conscience. cursesto all who seek to excuse themselves from this obvious work. do your own math . what doesnot add up will never add up. shemaw shicheen
tranny granny-
Such exciting and important opportunities for stewarding the land! i celebrate that you hold space for it. 
when you get a chance, could you tell more about what you mean by âcurses to all those who seek to excuse themselves from this obvious workâ? It hits me funny and I donât want to assume I understand your meaning. :-\
When your walk is contrary to the truth you know and to know to do good and not then do it, is this not a curse and being one? Are we not all obligated to complete each of our circles as in those willow branches stuck deep into the earth to grow anew the tree you cut? To those who are such a curse- curses! Even if it were me. It could be all the modivation I need to change the face of my own legacy. Those consequences we each choose not to witness. When like a nun I chose to marry Jesus, I became and am Mrs. Finisia Christ. Fine until brothers and sisters had children and myself nephews and neices calling me Auntie Christ. You can see this is why I go by Tranny Granny rather than use my real name and why I say curses to those who do not complete their own circles. They are a curse.
Tranny Granny-
Thanks for responding. I still donât fully understand your meaning (or feel reluctant to assume I do), but Iâd like to take a shot at replying.
I really support the work you do - rewild.info exists to serve exactly people like you, who hold space for the important work that needs doing. Thanks so much for posting here! We need people like you as a new underground railroad!
It sounds like you need people passionate about stewarding and renewing the wild food and land. I definitely want to help you with this.
I ask for help from you also - help to keep people feeling respected and safe here, so they can bare their souls and tell stories about the agony and ecstasy along the path of rewilding, and thus enrich the culture of rewilding for all of us. I worry that in your references to cursing people, you may intend to mean folks here. That this may inspire some folks to feel that what they do doesnât count as rewilding, or counts less than what others do. I know most rewilders already struggle a lot with feelings of shame, self-hate, and rage, and I want this place to stand as a respite from such pressures. I tell you this just to let you know my concerns, certainly not that you actually intended this.
Does that all sound in line with your values and experience?
Assuming so, perhaps we can figure out together how to get your message out to as many people as possible. Youâve got a Root Camp and Festival in Arco Idaho until June 28th, right?
Who else on the board wants to support this and get as many of the rewilders who need this there as possible?
I think Orion posted a lot more info in this thread: http://www.rewild.info/conversations/index.php?topic=943.0