anthropik forums maybe?
Hello Jebrim! Iād also like to get to know you better.
Anything else youād like to share about yourself.
Hello everyone.
Hi all
Iāve been foraging to fight nutrient deficiency as long as I remember. Wild onions(garlic) sourgrass (red sorell) blackberries, musadines, wild plums, wood sorrell, hickory nuts, persimmon, wild cherry all before the age of 5ā¦ Spent a summer picking burn Morrells for cash in 1990(age 30). Read my blog at www.myspace.com/grogenheimer for my new escapades. Voted for Russell Means for president 1984. And I can hand weave a net. I believe in an objective reality, killing and lying in self defense, and never forcing someone to help another, bankers run the government, not all rich people are pure evil, all do gooders do more harm than good. I picture myself on a lonely island with few worries and only other boaters as friends.
Must reads āEarth Abidesā āThe Origins Of Consciousness In The Break Down Of The Bicameral Mindā āAnthemā
The things Iāll miss the most after civ collapseā¦ My Dentistā¦Periodontistā¦Underwearā¦ Toilet Paper
Letās seeā¦ I grew till 11 in an outlying suburb of Aiken SC adjacent to miles and miles of International Paper Co land that ran all the way to the Savannah River (BOMB) Plant. There was a cool ājunk pileā we loved to pick through. I have 5 older brothers and an older sister that taught me what I could eat in the woods. My Dad, a nuclear engineer and reactor scientist and national qualifier Sunfish racer took us camping nearly every weekend in the summer at all the sailing clubs in GA NC & SC, so I do have camping (and sailing) skills. I hated school, dropped out in 11 grade after playing hooky for most of the year(76-77). I suffer from āindustrial diseaseā including tooth decay and Sebaceous cysts. Iāve learned several knots lately.
I find it difficult to seriously discuss civilization with any one who has not read THE ORIGINS OF CONSCIOUSNESS IN THE BREAKDOWN OF THE BICAMERAL MIND by Julian Jaynes. He gives the most thorough explanation of how and why ancient civilzations formed and fell, where religion comes from, how and why we have"modern human consciousness"(by his definition).
Soā¦ I will try to stick to primitive skills and herbalism and sailing and paddling and bicycles and iron smithing and net making and just picking yallās brains for all the millions of details that I lack.
Oh yah, I love jungle hammocks and camp quilts (the Ray Way). Maybe a yucca cord hammock and rabbit fur āRay Wayā quilt would work.
Hi
Happy to find friends half way round the world cause I couldnt find any here. I spent last 14 months in a remote mountain to test agricultural life but was disappointed when I found out itās a supporting part of the civ. So I returned to spend the winter trying to find a solution and happy to find you folk. Keep going. MR
Hey mountain refugee, Iām curious about where exactly āhalfway round the worldā is. Anyway, Iām happy you found us too.
Sorry that mean Iran. MR
Thanks for joining grog and MR, and bringing to the table your diversity and experience.
Hello all, I am Emily, I just turned 30 in October!! and am currently in SW Ohio, where I am developing a gardening experience/experiment on my parentsā land. I plan on building and maintaining a foraging-based garden, and helping domesticated fruits and vegetables rewild by encouraging the seeds to come back every year without much aid from human hands. I donāt know how well this will work, thatās why itās an ongoing experiment. I am interested in plants, native wild edibles that can be foraged, but also gardening, and want to incorporate that into my experiments. I have started an online journal of thoughts, and a place where I can record my experiences with my gardening plans. You will find most posts on here, under Flora food, or at http://iamhomegrown.wordpress.com
I was born and raised in SW Ohio, and my family moved from Cincinnati to Bethel, OH when I was 3 yrs old. The move was made because of the land that the old farmhouse stood on, and also my dadās love of antiques, which the house is. My parents immediately began a large garden, and planted several fruit and nut trees, which are still around and producing today. I grew up on homegrown fruits and vegetables but never really fully appreciated that unti lrecently. My parents even used to raise and eat rabbits, but I guess that changed when we kids started naming them and keeping them as pets. My parentsā house sits on 9 acres, most of which is wooded. The East Fork State Park runs into my parentsā wooded property, which allowed for many summer days wandering through the woods when I was younger, ending the summer with legs scarred with poison ivy, mosquito bites, sctratches, and I am sure dirt. I was a tom boy for sure. But I never really learned much about my home, as the subjects that interested me were not geography or history or science, but art! And I am a perpetual daydreamer to this day.
I have a lot of trouble with reality, and am often lost in thought, inside my own world in my head. Thsi has caused me to be somewhat socially inept, and has caused relationship problems too, of not āopeningā up. I have so many ideas of creative things that I want to do, but because I have so many ideas, itās hard to actually do any of them! I defintely think and dream a lot of the time instead of do anything, so thatās one thing I want to change, to be more active. I have always been searching for that āpartnerā to do activities with, like foraging and creating things, but never really found someone yet that has enough of a drive to do the same things I want to do, and to inspire me and encourage me to be active.
So I recently am trying to do all these on my own while I am home in Ohio. I feel that itās important for me to be able to meet my needs first so that I can truly know what my needs are and be happy that they are being met, then I wonāt want or need so much from others. So I am viewing this time in Ohio with family as a sort of time to āfindā myself. Then I may be heading back to Portland, OR, where I just moved from, in a year or two. But I want to make sure that I am secure enough in relying on myself and not others so that I donāt get so homesick and depressed because I am not finding a āfamily.ā Because to me, thatās one of my greatest needs! Wow! I just wrote ALOT!
-emily
Wow! So many new members.
Welcome, Alex, Angela, Shane, jebrim, grog, mountain refugee, and Emily.
I feel excited to read so many new voices.
looks around bewildered huh, intro thread, iāve been looking for you!!
Anywho, itās high time I introduced myself so, here is a little something about me, iām too lazy to think up something all over again so i am going to copy paste a bit from other places I have introduced myself. Here it is:
To start off, I am a 20 year old guy living in Ontario, Canada (I shuttle between Toronto and Waterloo). I study at the University of Waterloo. I am doing Physics, but seriously thinking of going into Philo. I have always been known and have been a person who loved nature and wilderness. Like my signature says, Nature and earth are like my temple and god to me. Most people who know me, tell me that I seem more at home in the middle of the forest. And I have also noticed the same. I donāt know why or how, but I naturally have an affinity to the wilderness. I am more aware of things and happy in the wilderness, I tend to get lost less there.
A little about my philosophical/religious background: I started out as a Hindu, as my family was all Hindu's. A STRONG one at that (in India, where i was born). A little before coming to Canada (around the age of 8 or 9), I was exposed to more religions and free-thought than i had been in before, and also, for whatever reason, found that Hinduism did not fit my beliefs perfectly. I spent a very long time looking for the right religion. At this point I was in a hostel school called "Rishi Valley". They are VERY nature friendly and essentially very pagan-ish in their general philosophy and teaching style and such, as was the founder of said school (Jiddu. Krishnamurthy). There I learned all my primitive skills and such. India is a country still in touch with its primitive roots, fortunately. Anyways, I continued my search for VERY long, finally giving up a little after I came to Canada (gave up about 2 1/2 years ago) and just settled at Non-Religious Atheist. I read around a lot about Atheism, other atheists beliefs to try and find some that fitted mine exactly, I started to find not. My priorities and look at life where a little different. I still couldn't pin-point exactly what was wrong. A couple of months or so ago a friend of mine was giving a talk and was telling us (me and this other guy) that he was giving it on March 19th. And then i said "ooh you just missed the equinox by like a day!". Upon hearing that my other friend looked at me weird and asked "why in the world do you know when that is...are you pagan?". My response was "huh, never thought of that, not really!". And then I DID think about it and found it I AM in fact Pagan, why I never thought of it before i will never know, I never thought any different of pagans than I do know, never was misinformed as such, since I HAD been searching for religion from a very young age. Anyways since then I have been looking around at what other pagan's believe, and strive for. And I have to say "it fits me perfectly", I am so happy to have finally found a name for my believes.
Of course very recently I finished reading āDao te chingā by Lao Tzu, and Lo and Behold, realised that most of what the Daoists believed as a part of their philosophy, I had come to conclude on my own. So I am now philosophically a Daoist (I have to mention that I am a Daoist in my philosophy only since Daoism has since developed into a religion with its own gods etc, which I do not seem to believe in).
In simple terms I revere the āspiritualā essence in all things, may you call it āmother natureā or Dao. And I believe we are all materialistic manifestations of our spiritual selves that is a part of the Dao, or something like that. Thus all things deserve equal respect in my eyes, from a stray dog, to someone I have known for a long time.
I look forward to learning much from this board. Thank you!
-Tj
P.S: Sorry if some of it doesnāt make sense, I AM a little drunk (AAGH my head!! OWWIE. I promise my normal self makes as much or less sense. LOLz).
Welcome, TJ, and thanks for your post.
Speaking of spirituality w/r/t primitivism, there is an author whose books you might want to check out. I have the books on my reading list, so I canāt give you a personal recommendation (yet), but Iām pretty sure the topic will interest you.
The author is Graham Harvey.
The two books I have on my list (for what itās worth; I did some picking and choosing) are:
Indigenous Religions
Animism: Respecting the Living World
Hope that info is helpful!
SilverArrow (Rebecca)
Hi, everyone. It looks like there is a lot of great information here. I will be reading for hours.
I am Emilyās sister. She told me to come here, so here I am.
I am 33, live in a small town in SW Ohio on the edge of civilization, according to the city folk. I have a big old house on 1/3 acre, which isnāt much, but it feeds me and I could supply half the neighborhood in tomatoes if I wanted to. I live with lots of cats and a dog.
I am very much into gardening for food, and having less of a lawn. The same part of growing up applies to me as it does to my sister, although I paid more attention to plants and gardening and probably spent more time out in the woods. It is very important to me to grow the majority of the food I eat or be able to find it locally, and Iām working towards that end. My biggest current issue is tea.
I also write books. A lot of my characters tend to live off the land, because I write rural (as opposed to urban) fantasy and they are āmythologicalā creatures.
Welcome big sis!
-emily
Helloā¦ I am from the Seattle, PNW beautifulness. I enjoy the city (biking, dumpstering, peeps, queers, delicious food, dance parties) but am pretty grossed out by it (and what builds it) tooā¦ I have been spending more time on land with folks and gathering food/medicinals and learning skills and have had these things become quite important to me and my ideas. So Iām stoked to readā¦ and shareā¦ woot, ms. B
Blasphemy is such a fun word to say! So is ridiculous >>
anyhow, welcome
Hello dear Blasphemy, or should I say Baskerville.
Emily, Jenstclair, Ms. B, helloā¦welcome!
Hey, just got on 5 minutes ago cause a frend sed to. Looks like a nice placeā¦
Hey, my name is Chase, just like my username, which came from the French verb chasser meaning āto huntā and ai hope to live up to that. Ai live in the infamous Orange County, so it took me a while to fully break from the materialistic shit arround me. Luckily ai was always objective and logical enough to see through things. It all started for me when ai reasoned my way out of being a christian and just happend to be going on a trip to Japan. And let me tell you, the energy there tripped me out! Afterwards, ai started to reach out with my energy, got responses, and was well on the way to becoming a regionalistic animistic shaman-like thingy anarchoprimitivist. It helpd that ai was already an anarchist. And my older brother helped and guided me quite a bit (not to mention the numerous spirits and plants that induced spiritual journies). Aim currently trying to cram my head and hands with enough knowledge to live in the local wilderness and find others doing the same.
LIVE
- chase