Willem, My oddity in my society used to frustrate me so badly till I found you guys down here and I felt right at home. You inspired me too, so thank you!
Victor you wrote "Survival of the fittest is a pretty sketchy thing to base things on. It has led to many really wierd and fucked up regimes through out human history."
Survival of the fittest leads to nothing but the survival of the fittest. Those fucked up (I see you use that word!) regimes used the name of the theory,and not the thing itself, to their benefit. Rulers say they kill to keep the peace, so Peace should lead to fucked up regimes too, ha?
And you wrote "Is there a diffrerence between an individual operating from a basis of fear and a nation that operates from that place?"
Man, I'm talking about a natural situation, where you fight a parallel fight. No swords, no guns, no bombs; No horse or jet; No police or army; Just two men fighting "personally" for their own lives, not for a Nation or a God or an Ideology or whatsoever they kill people for. In such a fight, the fittest one, The one who wrestles or kicks or shoots better will survive. And let's remember that in such a situation fear cannot remain. They don't fight because they fear anything, rather they fear nothing. The one who fears wouldn't fight a parallel fight, rather he would flee. Did I get you right?
Finally, I just recalled a joke I once read in a 14th century Persian manuscript. It's translation may not make you laugh, butdelivers its message clearly.
"A soldier went to a war and returned without lifting a finger. People asked about it and he replied "I swear to god that nobody among the enemies knew me and I knew nobody among them so I found no reason to fight."
Let's abide to Nature and don't let the ideas make us sad or angry when there is no reason. We all have shed tears in the past for our unfortunate sisters and brothers among humans and animals and trees and rocks and we will shed more in time, so if we find calm days when we feel like communicating, let's be happy to have like-minded companions. MR