http://discovermagazine.com/2006/feb/energizer
What do you think?
awesome article, doing less with more.
End-use/least-cost analysis begins with a simple question: What are you really trying to do? If you go to the hardware store looking for a drill, chances are what you really want is not a drill but a hole.
A key example in the argument for valuing ‘primitive’ technology
thanks for sharing!
You mean “doing more w/ less.” 
no I think it’s important to put a value on primitive technology, another way of saying that could be least energy intensity. I guess there’s a value interpretaion here, certainly worthy of it’s own conversation, but I say no because who wants more hole when what you need is an exact measurement ;D
This guy has hope in sustainable civ…hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
roflmmfao
Well, it’s Amory Lovins, what else would you expect?
As the world’s foremost techno-optimist, I think many of his ideas are naive and possibly dangerous for giving people false hope, but there may be validity in his ideas as far as powerdowns might go.
“false hope” is redundant.
I think it was Tom Paine who said hope was the most destructive force of mankind. Something about hope causing inaction.
Don’t blame that dude for the hope of other people. HE doesn’t seem to have hope, he seems to have ideas, and I think it would be cool if some of them work. After all, many of the technologies would be just as useful to us barbarians as to the civilized.
[quote=“grog, post:7, topic:547”]“false hope” is redundant.
I think it was Tom Paine who said hope was the most destructive force of mankind. Something about hope causing inaction.[/quote]
Well, okay, maybe “hope” wasn’t the best word to use. The Tom Paine quote is pretty on, and so is the Derrick Jensen philosophy of hope.
I don’t think I know that one. Care to explain?
here you go:
[quote=“Derrick Jensen”]When you give up on hope, you turn away from fear.
And when you quit relying on hope, and instead begin to protect the people, things, and places you love, you become very dangerous indeed to those in power.
In case you’re wondering, that’s a very good thing.[/quote]
from Beyond Hope
Yesterday I read As the World Burns: 50 Simple Things You Can Do to Stay in Denial in one sitting. I cried, laughed my ass off, then took a really, really long walk to let the steam out my ears. And hugged a few trees.
Aha! Thanks.
It’s like the little exercise I try to do: close your eyes, say to yourself, “Have no expectations.” Open your eyes, and everything is that much clearer.