Throughout the Ishmael Trilogy, Ishmael interprets the Bible’s stories and provides historical context for the reader. The creation myth, is not of human creation but of civlizations’ creation, etc etc. I’ve taken parts of his bible story interpretations and sometimes taken them further, like, garden of eden was fabulous where humans wanted for nothing just like the “uncivilized” squirrels that pass thru my yard and also having everything they desire, friends, mates, plethora of edible food, constant supply of housing etc. If squirrels started building a technological society, they may struggle with war, poverty, control, sexism etc. This is all being hashed out in my mind because two thought exercises crossed my mind, first - I believe Ishmael is entirely accurate with early parts of the Bible he covers, but what about Revelations, Daniel, and Zeccariah, second- a Benjamin L Corey article was put out where he finds similarities between trump and the apocalyptic scriptures.
To be clear here, I do not take any part of any apocalyptic bible literal in any fashion. Use of dragons, demons, satan, etc, would all just be metaphors or period language used at the time. What I wish Daniel Quinn could have Ishmael interpret for us is, does this ending of the Bible suggest that if the absolute worst parts of civilized “mother” culture become the most planet consuming obsession, will the religion of mother culture die, and what are these endpoints that will bring about its end? And do remember one thing, out of all three books, no character references any modern day person (as to not date the books perhaps) except Donald Trump is mentioned by name as an example of the absolute worst identification of taker culture.
highlights of the Ben Corey Piece
Daniel 7:23 fourth beast being from fourth kingdom, which shall be diverse from all the kingdoms…devours the whole earth, treads it down, and breaks it into pieces. USA is diverse, consumes most, horrible to environment
Daniel 7:8 7:4 & Revelations 13:5 13:2 6:2. 11:12
spare all the scripture, but they all point to the antichrist (the supreme taker?) as a non royal ie political outsider, obsessed with winning, known by non followers as a rampant liar, wins over crowds with boastful arrogant speeches, harms everyone who betrays him, and always promised things greater than his rivals
after an alliance is made with him he will practice deception and will go up and gain power with a small force of people. ?are these his small cohort of diehard powerful followers
the whole world will follow him - on twitter for sure
Daniel 7:25 he will try and change laws and set times 11:24 he will make his friends wealthy
2 thess. 2:9 religious leaders of the day will say he was sent by god - Franklin graham did already billy graham’s son)
Daniel 8:25 Thess 2:10 - these scriptures basically say that he will change the perception of what is believed as real and what is not – plays well into the Trump phenom of “fake news”, denials and truth altering
Daniel 13:9 - take land away from the people - BLM land out west
revelation 13 5-6 blasphemy, which trump got in trouble for and was televised
there is much more but it gets off narrative of trump as a possible be-all end-all taker supreme
there is a scripture part that he will clear away the temple, and desecrate it , like trump tear gassed all those people to get that photo op at a church that wasn’t his and held someone else bible upside down and backwards as a PR stunt for his evangelical base.
so here are my questions
what would Ishmael interpret the point of revelations, Daniel , etc the apocalyptic stuff that is codified by this worst of all people the “antichrist”?
is that story the story of how the taker culture collapses or starts to collapse? when this world has produced the most taker-ish taker, and his followers all follow in his footsteps to accelerate the end of the world as we know it, like accelerating climate change, sexism, racism, poverty, starvation etc (keystones of takers way of life)
maybe trump is the antichrist / dark taker lord, or maybe its the next dude worse than him sometime in the future. but! do the apocalyptic bible stories and descriptions in the texts (properly interpreted of course) provide or add value to gauging where the civilization is headed