Squatting on public land


#21

does communism have to imply central control? Isn’t that kind of the difference when added with anarchy, but I see what you mean, I myself care less about socialism than communism (I rather dislike socialism in today’s sense)


#22

I think you might be mixing up communism and Communism. Without the big “C”, you don’t have all the connotations that come along with talking about the Soviet Union and whatnot.


#23

They’re the same word, just with the people using “communism” trying to reinvent a word when another, “socialism”, already exists.


#24

Listen guys, lets not get into petty arguments about such a silly thing, huh? In the beginning, socialism was the practice and communism was the goal; a word meaning “socialist utopia”. When Stalin claimed that he had achieved this (using a form of socialism with centralized control), the kind of socialism he practiced came to be called communism, creating this current confusion of the term.


#25

Anti,

Glad to hear you’re thinking about making the jump to rewilding. What about Australia? There ought to be plenty of bush there to hide away in no?

Anyway, if you have your heart and mind set on the US, think about finding someone who will be sailing from NZ to the US, you may even be able to find someone sailing directly to the Washington coast. This way you have a much better chance of getting through if your captain is willing to look the other way. I’m looking at going to hawaii from the mainland US and I’d like to travel anonymously for personal reasons, sailing is one method I’ve been checking. A lot of people are looking for crew and if you can get yourself some experience in open water you might be able to get a free trip working as a crewman.

Best of luck to you either way, be careful of the bears out that way, the forest fires are reportedly making them hungrier and thus more aggressive than usual!

Ryan


#26

ehehe bears for the win !

I’ve actually booked by tickets for Jan 16th, heading to New Hampshire as I have a good friend living there.

He’s going to help me get grounded, he’s also into rewilding but he’s not on this site despite my nagging ! (he reads it tho)

His father owns like 36 acres of “wild” land that we are going to practice alot in.

Once we are sorted Washington state is where we intend on heading…

so should be good

EDIT: Whay not Aus ? Aus tends to be hot as hell at the coolest of times, with the fever our world is getting its only going to get hotter, while I still have the choice over where I want to rewild, I will make the choice to live somewhere cooler :stuck_out_tongue:


#27

Hi Dylan (just found your post on the introductions thread). I’m a kiwi too, it’s good to find another here.

I’m suprised you don’t find NZ a good place to rewild. To me it seems like theres enough wild space here, like the west coast of the south island for instance.

Where are you exactly? I’m in Christchurch. I’m lucky enough to live with a good friend whose also into rewilding. Unfortunately we’ve done more talking then action at this stage but we have done a few things such as catching/cooking eels, making an eel trap, looking for edible plants and attempting to make/use a bow drill (hope to get that working soon). We’re hoping to be more active this summer.

Anyhow, I’m sorry to hear you’re heading offshore soon but I wish you the best of luck with those bears. :wink: If circumstances change and you end up staying in NZ and you’re near Christchurch, feel free to look me up.

I’d be keen to meet up with other rewilders, whether it’d be just to hang out or put ideas into practise.

-Tom


#28

[quote=“anti_, post:26, topic:274”]I’ve actually booked by tickets for Jan 16th, heading to New Hampshire as I have a good friend living there.

He’s going to help me get grounded, he’s also into rewilding but he’s not on this site despite my nagging ! (he reads it tho)

His father owns like 36 acres of “wild” land that we are going to practice alot in.[/quote]

Hey, if you want to check out any meetings and skillshares and stuff while you’re in New Hampshire, feel free to sign up for the Yahoo! group I started. Link is in my signature.


#29

Have you been to the US before? That part of the US can have some mean winter storms so watch out for those since you are starting out in the coldest months of the year.

Let us know how it’s going and good on ya’!

Ryan


#30
I'm suprised you don't find NZ a good place to rewild. To me it seems like theres enough wild space here, like the west coast of the south island for instance.

NZ is definitely my home but I feel the need to roam somewhere far from home, far form my comfort zone… so roam I shall :stuck_out_tongue:

Have you been to the US before? That part of the US can have some mean winter storms so watch out for those since you are starting out in the coldest months of the year.

Yea, I’ve been briefed on the weather there in the US, whilst I’m working on my residency I’ll be sampling the outdoors mostly, getting to know the winter, then the next season, and the next… it would be pretty foolish to go cold-turkey (hahaha cold… turkey)

Rewild meetings ?! When I get there and get a job etc I’ll be making the most of them !


#31

I’m in central Washington state, and plan to move into an area wilderness. I’m not planning to stay in one spot, I’m going to migrate between 2 spots. One lower elevation near to a remote lake in the winter, and to a higher elevation near a high mountian lake during the summer. One reason I chose both sites is they are near water, and heavily forested. The higher elevation offers better land for planting while the lower lake offers good fishing. Both are far from roads and trails. God Bless Google Earth!


#32

Hi,

A friend and I are in Central Washington as well, and we’re looking to live as close to Ellensburg as possible on public lands. Any advice? We’re looking at living in canvas tents.

Of course, we would never want to butt in on what you got going, but can you be a little more specific about the location where you’re camping, just so we could get an idea of the area?

You’re welcome to email me with your response. My email address should be listed in my profile.

Ben


#33

I regret is not going to rainbow - I’ve heard some really cool history with that group but lately some iffy & awkward growing pains have kept me from going solo


#34

content://media/external/file/19980. You have to get a color of title like this is an example from Colorado you have to stay on the land for 7 to 12 years and this is for owned land but on public land or on land you have to the only way you could build a cabin is if it’s 10 x 10 or smaller. Each state is different and they’re not going to make it easy for you to find this out because they don’t want people doing it but in most case the size is 10 by 10 cabin and it has to be maintained and then after certain amount of years you get a color of title and then you own the land and you have to pay the taxes


#35

Runaway slaves wouldn’t be killed for just squatting. They would have been killed for resisting being captured to be re-enslaved. Wildists face the same danger–that of being killed for “resistance” to being captured for re-civilizing back into society’s cage. Therefore, wildists are today’s “runaway slaves”–running from society’s enslavement that we call “civilization”. Nevertheless, wildists would, for their own security, lodge only temporarily at the mouths and heads of streams. Wildists would resist “curfews” and “lockdowns” that are declarations of war against those who don’t surrender to such proclamations for them to be re-captured. Nature, who is the sustainer of wildists and whom her wildist children defend, is a target of civilization-supremacists (who’s offensive civilization is, in turn, a target of defensive wildists!).