the link is here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=177586&title=red-state-blue-state-report-oil
it certainly takes the piss, but if youâre not too sensitive, itâs funny enough, and is some exposure for the lifestyle.
the link is here: http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=177586&title=red-state-blue-state-report-oil
it certainly takes the piss, but if youâre not too sensitive, itâs funny enough, and is some exposure for the lifestyle.
That was AWESOME!
It made me a little sad to hear the audience groaning so much, though.
[quote=âBlueHeron, post:2, topic:1013â]That was AWESOME!
It made me a little sad to hear the audience groaning so much, though.[/quote]
yeah, didnât surprise me though. let them eat grocery store bought food I guess, while they can.
hah, thatâs great. I just donât like how the slapped the label of democrat onto the guy. If your gonna rewild, you have to drop political affiliations. Democrats, go away!
All the same bullshit tricks. If I had a nickle for everytime some idiot douche pulled out a lighter while I was working on a bow-drill⌠Itâs like I want to punch them in the face and say âSHut the fuck up, youâre not fucking funny.â Hahaha. That guy was awesome.
What the âred statesâ guy said⌠âWhy should Americans have to go back to living like the indigenous people we wiped out in order to live like Americans?â
Thatâs fucking insane. Thatâs not funny at all. That is so fucking racist and just⌠weird.
Isnât it a parody of a racist statement?
If they werenât making fun of the guy in the first place, it would be a parody. But they do make fun of the rewilding guy first, like he is an idiot. Than they compare him to indigenous peoples⌠So they are still making fun of indigenous peoples. If they were boosting the rewilding guy, it wouldnât be insulting, but they put him down, than compare him to indigenous peoples in a different joke. Does that make sense?
I think you might look a little too hard for logic there, Scout. It actually seemed a little sympathetic towards the rewilderâas sympathetic as the Daily Show gets, anyway. Really, I expected a lot worse. They portrayed rewilding as kooky but generally benign; the âred stateâ guy got a portrayal of stupid and mean. Iâd rather have the âkookyâ label any day.
In the same segment they also make fun of the oil crisis, Democrats, Republicans, television (esp. political opinion shows), bicycle commuters, motorists, NASCAR racers, Americans, and the British. Everything on the Daily Show is put there as the platform for a joke. It is the primary way that the show couches the points it wants to make. But itâs layered. You have to look beyond the joke for the real message (although undoubtedly there are audience members who are too lazy or ignorant to get it). Iâve always felt that the Daily Show has more than one audience.
So if the Daily Show is going to examine rewilding, itâs going to make jokes about it on the surface. I saw a large part of the interview as an absurdist look at how the blue state guyâs caricature clashes against the culture of rewilding (dumpster diving, etc). Itâs like, âHow would this silly four-eyed intellectual liberal media guy respond to this guyâs lifestyle?â And what the red state guy said was written in answer to the question, âHow would this silly macho bigoted conservative pundit react against the blue state guyâs interview?â
I actually feel stoked that they bothered to seek out somebody who is rewilding and document his perspective, instead of doing a complete parody. That way, a real live rewilding person got to make some clear points about rewilding and the end of the industrial age, and he said them with confidence, even if they were sound bites. If you look carefully, past the TV edits, you can see that Tod is an extremely keen and resourceful person (they note the fact that heâs a former engineer) with hope for the future and who has found his bliss. Not only that, they showed images of how he lives, and it looks like he is finding great success. Make fun of the roadkill and the bowdrill all you want for the sake of the lower life forms in the audience, but the proof is in the pudding⌠the guy is relaxed, friendly, smart, physically fit, and confident. (I love the way he says, âYeah, itâs roadkillâ, like âSo what, get over it, dudeâ.) If I had never heard of the idea of reforming a pre-agricultural society, and I had seen this on the Daily Show, I would have been intensely curious about this guy and his proposed solution, despite the joking about dumpster maggots.
Ditto.
We all see what we all see I suppose.
[quote=âUrban Scout, post:5, topic:1013â]All the same bullshit tricks. If I had a nickle for everytime some idiot douche pulled out a lighter while I was working on a bow-drill⌠Itâs like I want to punch them in the face and say âSHut the fuck up, youâre not fucking funny.â Hahaha. That guy was awesome.
What the âred statesâ guy said⌠âWhy should Americans have to go back to living like the indigenous people we wiped out in order to live like Americans?â
Thatâs fucking insane. Thatâs not funny at all. That is so fucking racist and just⌠weird.[/quote]
People can be cocks (not the rooster kind). When I walk barefoot in the city, I get all these weird looks. The funny thing is, THEYâRE the crazy ones! I mean, how can you look me in the eyes and tell me that shoes are a good thing? That we NEED shoes if we are to even walk into a store? Or that shoes show how much better we are than the ground below us? I just remember that logic, and it keeps me cool.
The âredâ humor on that show was the same kind of ironic backwards humor you find on the Colbert Report. I personally find it quite funny. Of course, thatâs when Iâm attempting to give a shit about this political game.
And I still feel that show mocks the rewilding philosophy in a way. But the guy isnât really helping portray himself in a dignified manner anyway. Dumpster diving for food? I guess itâs alright, and itâs a good use of food that would otherwise go to waste, but to show that on television just makes the guy look like a hobo who needs civ, not like a wild man who could live perfectly fine without it. Itâs degrading.
Well, of course the Daily Show mocked rewilding. The Daily Show mocks. It doesnât know how to do anything but. If something appears on the Daily Show at all, it appears as something to mock. That goes without saying.
And of course, how defensive should we get when someone mocks our own sacred causes? Shouldnât we have the ability to laugh at ourselves?
But I think it went pretty light on rewilding, all things considered. I wouldnât call it a sympathetic portrayal, but it felt a lot more sympathetic than what I braced for. After we watched it, Giuli got a little perturbed to see us mocked like that; I said, âHeck, I can hardly believe weâve gotten to the point where thereâs enough of us to warrant mocking!â
yeah, I guess my upsetness just boils down to the fact that Iâm not a big fan of dumpster diving for food. Just seems degrading to me. Still think the daily show is the ~political~ shit, though.
What about dumpster diving feels degrading to you? Do you think of garbage as something bad or shameful?
Jason - you made my day with that comment! Thank you!
Yeah, I do. I know itâs just part of my inbred civ mindset, but I do. Just sayin, I think if your gonna rep rewilding on television, you shouldnât dumpster dive while on air. People would get the impression that weâre hobos.
But you know what, now that I think about it, fuck that. People can think what they wanna think.
[quote=âv-rus, post:17, topic:1013â]Yeah, I do. I know itâs just part of my inbred civ mindset, but I do. Just sayin, I think if your gonna rep rewilding on television, you shouldnât dumpster dive while on air. People would get the impression that weâre hobos.
But you know what, now that I think about it, fuck that. People can think what they wanna think.[/quote]
whatâs wrong with hobos? by most definitions i could be considered a hobo, and it doesnât interfere with my rewilding anymore than my other civiliized activities. and while i donât think that dumpster diving is some revolutionary path to primitivism, itâs not as fucked up as buying food at the grocery store, which iâm sure most of us do.
You get what you ask for
[quote=âUrban Scout, post:5, topic:1013â]Itâs like I want to punch them in the face and say
âSHut the fuck up, youâre not fucking funny.â Hahaha.[/quote]
I wish I was funny. I wish I was tough.
Maybe then I could write for TV too.