The Role Of The Sexes

And which sex is “dominant” among those? Sexual cannibalism doesn’t seem to imply “domination.” It’s probably unpleasant, but what about your whole life before that? Where’s the evidence of male praying mantises being dominated by females? And which is the dominant sex among lions? Females do all the hunting, and males guard the pride and their territory. Males are the most likely to be left out by themselves, having to find some way to create a pride for themselves. So who’s dominant?

In both of those species the female is obviously dominant.

In all sexes there are alot of factors in which one sex is more dominating than the other…

I am just starting a conversation about the human species in comparison…that is all. :wink:

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And which sex is “dominant” among those? Sexual cannibalism doesn’t seem to imply “domination.” It’s probably unpleasant, but what about your whole life before that? Where’s the evidence of male praying mantises being dominated by females? And which is the dominant sex among lions? Females do all the hunting, and males guard the pride and their territory. Males are the most likely to be left out by themselves, having to find some way to create a pride for themselves. So who’s dominant?
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In both of those species the female is obviously dominant.[/quote]

Nope and nope. The female is not obviously dominant nor is she even dominant according to anything you indicated. In fact, Jason’s reply refutes your statement despite your repetition of it. Give me some concrete examples of the dominance if you want me to buy it.

In both of those species the female is obviously dominant.

Obviously, it’s not so obvious. :slight_smile: Actually, I thought you were going to say that male lions are dominant, because they get to lounge about all day and the females bring them food (they don’t actually lounge about all day).

In all sexes there are alot of factors in which one sex is more dominating than the other

I don’t see it. But then, I tend to think of most claims about domination being more projection than reality.

I am just starting a conversation about the human species in comparison............that is all.

Sure, but that first requires a bit of discussion of what you’re comparing to. For instance, you took it as “obvious” that female lions dominate male lions. I thought if any sex was dominant among lions, it would be male. If they’re both “dominating” each other, doesn’t that suggest that what we’re looking at isn’t “domination” at all?

The female praying mantis devours the head of the male eating the entire body during a sexual act. If that isn’t domination then I don’t know what is.

The female lion is smaller being more agile and faster than the typical large males that can be found hunting in packs doing most of the kills for any given pride. If that isn’t domination then I don’t know what is.

The female praying mantis devours the head of the male eating the entire body during a sexual act. If that isn't domination then I don't know what is.

I had a sandwich for lunch today. Would you say that I dominated the bread, or that I ate it? Like I said, I don’t see where sexual cannibalism can really be indicative of domination. Doesn’t really say anything about the rest of their lives, and it seems to me that domination is, by definition, a long-standing pattern of behavior. A single act cannot be domination, can it?

The female lion is smaller being more agile and faster than the typical large males that can be found hunting in packs doing most of the kills for any given pride. If that isn't domination then I don't know what is.

And in a confrontation, the bigger, slower male will pretty much always win, because combat is what they’re good at. The lionness is an effective hunting machine; the lion, an effective combat machine. That’s why lionnesses bring in the food, and the male lions guard the pride. So who’s dominating who?

I’d say, frankly, that you don’t know what domination is, if those are examples of it.

It seems that some people don’t believe in domination at all amongst nature. Can’t say that I agree with that view but I’m in no mood to argue somthing so trivial.

I agree to disagree.

Dominant:
1 a : commanding, controlling, or prevailing over all others
b : very important, powerful, or successful
2 : overlooking and commanding from a superior position

3 : of, relating to, or exerting ecological or genetic dominance
4 : being the one of a pair of bodily structures that is the more effective or predominant in action

but a dominant sex? A dominant species? What would this mean? Where naturally one sex is very important, powerful, or successful over another?
Where one sex is “commanding, controlling, or prevailing over all others” (but this deals with culture, and especially from civilized culture… and we know its views)
so maybe on sex is “of, relating to, or exerting ecological or genetic dominance” umm well that’s talking about genes, like eye color… etc…
or how about "being the one of a pair of bodily structures that is the more effective or predominant in action "
So perhaps a dominant sex in place of eye, and one sex is more effective? More effective at what… perhaps a different sex can be ‘more effective’ at something, but this make one sex ‘dominant’?

Another definition of Dominant (my favourite)
exercising influence or control; “television plays a dominant role in molding public opinion”