The Cages That Bind Us

Visions of the Rewilding Renaissance Rewilding Mind & Heart
#21

Ok, I don’t think you mean this (and if you do, then I think you desperately need to stop thinking and start experiencing). If you had said something like “Only the most properly adapted to the given niche survive”, I could at least see a vague argument for it, but…

At any rate, cooperation forms the cornerstone of human adaptation. To say that “only one human being out of such an event can remain victorious” shows a severe lack of understanding of our most valuable ability.

I’m mostly a moral relativist myself.

#22

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Only the strong survive. I believe that natural conflicts occur all the time and only one human being out of such an event can remain victorious.
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Ok, I don’t think you mean this (and if you do, then I think you desperately need to stop thinking and start experiencing). If you had said something like “Only the most properly adapted to the given niche survive”, I could at least see a vague argument for it, but…

At any rate, cooperation forms the cornerstone of human adaptation. To say that “only one human being out of such an event can remain victorious” shows a severe lack of understanding of our most valuable ability.

I’m mostly a moral relativist myself.[/quote]

Ok, I don't think you mean this (and if you do, then I think you desperately need to stop thinking and start experiencing). If you had said something like "Only the most properly adapted to the given niche survive", I could at least see a vague argument for it, but....

Is it so hard to believe that individuals that are tough in mind and body are often the most affirming people of humanity?

At any rate, cooperation forms the cornerstone of human adaptation. To say that "only one human being out of such an event can remain victorious" shows a severe lack of understanding of our most valuable ability.

Yes and no. If you are talking about the kind of coordinated cooperation tribal communities hold then, yes, I would agree with you.

What bothers me the most about people who strongly stipulate the cooperative theory is that they are basically using the same slogan the civies use since most proponents of modernity usually say technological modernism is successful because of cooperation itself.

I'm mostly a moral relativist myself.

Relativism is good too.

#23

Does that make it any less true?

#24

in logical terms, is this tough in mind AND body or tough in mind and/or body?
I can see all different situations, but I also question the word tough?

Tough:
strong or firm in texture but flexible and not brittle b : not easily chewed
characterized by severity or uncompromising determination
capable of enduring strain, hardship, or severe labor
very hard to influence
difficult to accomplish, resolve, endure, or deal with
stubbornly fought
marked by absence of softness or sentimentality

affirmed:
to state positively
to assert (as a judgment or decree) as valid or confirmed
to express dedication to

So yeah, I agree,
individuals that are tough in mind and/or body are often the most affirming people of humanity. I’d say more often in the mind though. But physical strength could account to bullying I suppose to enforce the toughness of mind, but in human culture today, the use of tools/weapons, can mitigate need for such strength of body…

#25

Again, you guys are misinterpreting my post. Freedom and Free Will are related ideas. One does not exist without the other. The very fact is, as a human being on this earth, you are able to do what you want. There really is nothing stopping you other than the consequence of your action.

My definition of Freedom is different than yours and there is no objective definition. Freedom is like the word love, and in my idea of freedom, we are absolutely free to make our own decisions, and do our own actions. You don’t have to be a wage slave, you just continue to be because that is how you maintain a comfortable existence without the burdens of hunger and homelessness. If you die that is a product of your own choice, your own freedom, your personal free will.

Of course there are restraints to physical freedom. Being in a jail that you cannot break out of. But if that is a case, I’m a slave to gravity. I’m a slave to food. I’m a slave to aging.